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11:10 am
August 16, 2012


Rush Lowe

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The local Gold man has recently upgraded his digs to the free standing building aside John's Barber Shop. The shop has added new life to the corner that hasn't been scene there since they distributed S and H Green Stamps from the location. The owners added a couple of chairs out front and often enjoy a smoke break in front of the shop. Recently they have been told that they can not sit out in front of the shop, because it makes the town look bad.  

 

Not for nothing but,  I see people hanging in front of business smoking all the time. When did this become a law? 

 

I like seeing the wide variety of items he puts out front and I don't mind seeing someone sitting there enjoying the nice weather. I think i'll stop in there and see what else he has got. I like that black scooter in the parking lot.

12:22 pm
August 16, 2012


RocklandRealtor

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I don't want to come off the wrong way, but I did think it look a little trashy, sitting on a car seat bench, smoking.  Doesn't make me want to check out the place.  They are at a prime downtown location with alot of traffic coming through the town.  First impressions

1:33 pm
August 16, 2012


tacks2deth

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Yes, by all means, they should be persuaded to take it inside……..

That way, the otherwise cosmopolitan swank, synonymous with the rest of downtown Rockland, will be allowed to shine through once again. confused

 

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They (the International Left) don't want the use of reason to prevail. If people can think for themselves then they'll start wanting to vote for themselves. So if you can stop them from thinking for themselves, then the battle for dictatorship is essentially won.

— Lord Christopher Monkton

8:17 am
August 17, 2012


biffriff

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Just wondering who it is that's telling these people they can't smoke outside their own business.  That's one of the most ridiculous things I've heard come out of Rockland in years.

8:58 am
August 17, 2012


Derek Ewell

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I dont think it is so much the fact that they are smoking in front…but the fact that it has become a hang out of sorts and it looks like hell. It is at a major intersection of town, that a ton of people see. There is a big push on in town to beautify the center and surrounding areas. This shop seems to be doing the exact opposite. It doesnt look real nice. Not to say that the business isnt a bonus for the town. I just think it could have a more inviting appearence.

11:02 am
August 17, 2012


biffriff

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If that's the case they need to get after the people that own the Banner as well…that place looks like a dump from the outside.

3:44 pm
August 17, 2012


Rush Lowe

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I like the way the Banner looks. It is what it is. A small town neighborhood pub. Like it or not it is the anchor business for that section of town. 

 

As it turns out the Gold Mine has purchased a ton of stolen property over the years. Many of these items stolen from break ins right here in Rockland. The landlord of the property (not the business owner) has received complaints from neighbors about loitering and more recently a camper has been placed on the property for sale and some had concerns there were people living in it. Which there were not.  

 

The Gold Mine owners were asked by the landlord of the property to refrain from hanging out in front of the shop. 

 

I guess there s always three sides to a story 

5:55 pm
August 17, 2012


concerned

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Rush, He doesn't like the word Pawn shop its a coin store. The problem I see isn't him and his friends outside smoking but the type of people coming to the store to sell the things they steal or sell for drugs and are desperate. This type of business doesn't belong in the center of town in a prime location. His posted hours are not being followed. He is sometimes out there until around 11 o'clock at night. Everyone has a right to make a living but he and his business is not what i like in walking distance to my house. When you start pawning travel trailers you have really crossed the line. Whats next, maybe an airplane, a couple boats? Can't wait until I catch someone in my house borrowing an air conditioner or some jewelry. Do you see my point? After I break every bone in their body for stealing my things I'm going to go have a talk with the pawn shop owner. laugh

10:44 pm
August 17, 2012


biffriff

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Rush, which way you going with this?…first your defending the guy…next your trashing the guy…

 

btw…i stand by my statement…the Banner looks like a freakin' dump…take a good look…especially from the D&D side…

 

been away for a few months…good to be back…lol….

1:54 am
August 18, 2012


Toscarmen

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Post edited 1:57 am – August 18, 2012 by Toscarmen


concerned said: 

"His posted hours are not being followed. He is sometimes out there until around 11 o'clock at night"

 

 He has been on that car seat passed out with a bottle of booze in his hand at 2:am before. I believe he lives there too.

6:14 am
August 18, 2012


tacks2deth

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Whoa…..let's focus here folks…..shall we?

An accusation has been made more than once here already, that this local business engages in the resale of stolen property. This is a very serious accusation.

The selling of stolen property is illegal.

If this is going on, someone needs to come forward with proof, and our local law enforcement can move to shut it  down. This is a far bigger issue than the honky-tonk aura the business adds to the town's already less than stellar image.

On the other hand, posting in a forum such as this, stating that someone is engaging in the sale of stolen property, when it is not true, is in essence the publishing of false, and defamatory claims, and is a libelous action.

Hey, it's a free country, and I'm the last person to tell anyone else what to do, but I would recommend caution, and confine posting on this matter to facts known, and not rumors or hearsay.

 

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They (the International Left) don't want the use of reason to prevail. If people can think for themselves then they'll start wanting to vote for themselves. So if you can stop them from thinking for themselves, then the battle for dictatorship is essentially won.

— Lord Christopher Monkton

6:16 pm
August 18, 2012


Rush Lowe

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Well tacks there is no doubt that the guy has bought multiple stolen items in the past. That is a matter of record. Much of the stuff has been stolen from right here in Rockland and a lot of it has been returned to it's owners. He is required by law to get an ID from the seller and keep the stuff for thirty days before he sells it.  Recently a Rockland resident was arrested after a theft victim found their jewelry at the Coin Shop and called police. The resident was a frequent customer of the Coin shop. 

 

I'm not trashing the guy Biff. I was seeking information and I found out some. Don't let that keep you from kicking Ed in the balls again for no reason though.

10:22 am
August 19, 2012


tacks2deth

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Rush,

 

I'm still not sure exactly what you're trying to say here, but be advised that my post was not meant to stir up controversy — quite the opposite in fact, by keeping people out of potential trouble for what they may say about this issue.

The earlier post left the impression, I'm guessing unintentionally, that the business was routinely engaged in the reselling of stolen items. Clearly, illegal:

"As it turns out the Gold Mine has purchased a ton of stolen property over the years. Many of these items stolen from break ins right here in Rockland".

Your subsequent post certainly helps to clear things up to some extent. If the proprietor is required to put a 30 day hold on items and retain the i.d. of each person from whom he buys, then that gives victims of theft, burglary here, somewhat of a chance to see if their items turn up in his store. It sounds like the owner is cooperating with victims and the police, by returning stolen items to their rightful owners. I'm not sure how much more he could do under the circumstances, apart from just not being in this type of business. Additionally, it would seem that such cooperation would help the RPD locate the original thief, starting with going back to the i.d.'d parties that provided the stolen items.

That's a far cry from what was previously said here, which made the business sound like it was some sort of fencing operation, and I was just trying to advise caution because of the potential libel.

No doubt every pawn shop has at one time resold stolen items. It's impossible for the owners to know for sure. The 30 day period is helpful, but not foolproof. Stolen items can change hands through bartering many times before they land in a pawn shop, and the party supplying the item(s) could certainly use a false i.d. Also, a network of thieves could work together by stealing property from one geographic area and then carting them to another for selling, many miles away. The chances of the victims being able to check every pawn shop in a 100 mile radius for their stuff is pretty remote. Hell, stolen stuff can end up on Craigslist…….laugh

The other aspect of the original post that was troubling, was the implication that it was an accepted belief that this business resold stolen merchandise ("for years"), and yet hasn't been closed down. By implication, it meant that the RPD would surely have to know about it too, and was doing nothing. That made no sense to me whatsoever…….

Again, if anyone has proof that the proprietor of this shop is knowingly accepting stolen property for resale, they need to bring this proof to local law enforcement, who I am sure will evaluate it, and deal with it accordingly.

Apart from that, this guy is innocent until proved guilty.

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They (the International Left) don't want the use of reason to prevail. If people can think for themselves then they'll start wanting to vote for themselves. So if you can stop them from thinking for themselves, then the battle for dictatorship is essentially won.

— Lord Christopher Monkton

8:52 am
August 20, 2012


Rush Lowe

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you have sized it up perfectly Tacks. The person who was arrested was the last person you would have suspected of  selling stolen jewelry.  

 

I was attempting to illustrate that perhaps this business owner is being singled out for having smokers gathered in front of the store because police, neighbors and others do not like the business to begin with. 

 

I hadn't concluded whether that was justifiable or not. 

 

Perhaps the landlord should worry more about the curb appeal in the way of weeds growing two feet tall on the property.

10:09 am
August 23, 2012


SAGF

Rockland

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Post edited 10:10 am – August 23, 2012 by SAGF


I drove by there yesterday…and noticed a landscaping company out ther mulching and adding a white pickett fence!!..

Maybe the landlord reads RN and took your advice Rush.puzzled 

 

**I do agree about the people hanging out front. It makes me uncomfortable to go into a store with a group of people just "hangin out" by the door. (hence why i haven't gone in there.)

1:19 pm
August 23, 2012


Rush Lowe

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I noticed that too LOL 

 

It looks much better now 

 

Nice Job! 

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